Judge: "You want how much from LimeWire?" Records Execs: "75 trillion dollars." Judge: "You do know that's five times the national debt, right?"
See, if people just bought their music legally, record companies would be tens of trillions of dollars richer. These are reasonable damages that are calculated from the actual destructive effect of downloading of music.
Music pirates are the greatest threat to America that has ever been conceived of.
/potato
All of the music recorded since Edison's wax cylinders isn't worth $75T in the aggregate. Well, except for Radiohead maybe; they're awesome. And that one Zepplin album with the symbols. But all the rest of it is crap.
The thing is is that they didn't lose that much money. People mostly downloaded it because it cost them nothing. If they were forced to spend money to download it, the number of downloads would be significantly reduced. They areusing flawed logic for their equation.
i say the judge allows the award, requires the record companies to recognize the gain right away rather than if they ever actually collect, and then tax them on the income. then when they can't pay, we transfer our national debt to the record industry. ta-da, debt-free USA.
I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Or at least download it illegally off the internet.
Serious question: Say Limewire agrees to settle for $50M. How much of that money will be awarded to the artists who lost income because of file sharing? How much will be dispersed among RIAA execs in the form of bonuses?
who the hell still uses limewire!?
I know, right? *fires up kazaa*
you both suck
/opens napster
pffft
/connect irc.undernet.org
/j #mp3passion
@find *my*song*
/ctcp fserv_bot_name my_song
Might want to also use: //mode $me +x
You're welcome
/fires up thepiratebay.org
Blame Congress
This is Fark. We don't blame the government for anything it does. It's all the corporations' fault.
Dude, you can white knight those corporations all you want, they're still not going to sleep with you
What if I white knight the government?
They'll fark you. In fact they'll fark you no matter what you do.
I used Limewire once, and now it hurts when I urinate.
I download to sample. If I like it, I buy it. If I don't...BALEETED
People frequently claim they do this, and sure, it's reasonable that you delete stuff you don't like... but really, you expect us to believe that you download music, decide you like it, and then download it again from a legal source or purchase it elsewhere?
Yeah. I do, because if I really like the band, I want them to get some money so they can keep making music. I know the record company gets more of the money I spend than the band does, but I can't exactly pay the musicians directly for it, so this is the next best option.
/remember how the Tool album 10,000 Days got leaked in its entirety?
//yeah, I downloaded it
///then I bought it once it was officially released
////because Tool is farking awesome
programs like limewire aren't necessary anymore, most albums are on sites like megaupload, mediafire, and rapidshare. I'm surprised they haven't been sued out the ass yet.
I lost a 33 year record collection in a house fire. I had probably three thousand albums, everything from 8-tracks to vinyl to cassettes to CDs, and over five hundred singles, mostly vinyl 45s but some cassette singles.
Oh man. I am so sorry (srsly)... that HAD to hurt. I still have 300 +/- LPs, assorted 45s and hundreds of cassettes from my record store days. I've told both my kids that, should there be a fire, I'm rescuing my autographed SRV, Springsteen, Costello, white vinyl copy of the White Album and brown vinyl copy of Captain Fantastic before coming back for them.
The GDP of the entire world is only $61 trillion. These lawyers are saying that they were damaged in the amount greater than the entire world (including themselves) puts out.
What's even more absurd is the RIAA lawyers saying the entire world's GDP would be 136 trillion has it not been for the people using limewire.
Politicians will say no to the RIAA as soon as the RIAA and members of the content cartels have no more money to bribe politicians.
This is why I promote Piracy as a means of revolution. Once we knock down the content cartels then we can talk about equitable methods of paying artists. As long as the content cartels exist though, no artist has any hope of getting a fair deal.
I'm as liberal as it comes for social issues. I've never once blamed a corporation for doing whatever it can for it's bottom line. They're in the business of making money, not pleasing me. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional. I blame the government for letting corporations get away with what they do, and for basically allowing corporations to run our government. This was my argument before we allowed companies to finance elections openly. Now that Wal-Mart can finance their own candidate for president (out in the open), we're all completely farked. Our government is broken, and until we fix 2 fundamental issues, we will continue to be farked more and more. Gotta reform the election process, and also gotta make it so that only one issue is on one bill.
I kinda prefer it be out in the open, since I know they are going to do it anyway. What I would like is that it be even MORE in the open. I'd like to see the logos of the major donors on all campaign signage, memos, press releases, websites and on the representative's clothes. Like race car drivers and bicycle racers.
Why not? Soup kitchens give away food every day, and yet restaurants are still in business. Similarly, the producers often offer product at higher quality than that which is found for free. Additionally, were you aware that at one time in history, people were not paid for the music they produced? Yet musicians still existed. And they managed it without any copyright laws, too. Of course, none of that music, by people like Mozart, survives to this day. Furthermore, no one makes money today selling Mozart music since it is public domain. Oh, wait. The model doesn't work anymore. It's time to change it. Pretending otherwise is akin to forcing people to ride in horses and carriages through legal chicanery because automobile manufacturers hurt the business of carriage makers and blacksmiths. Times change, things change, and we must change with them.
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