Mac William Flew Laine near her home in Santa Fe, New Mexico
"He had planned to come to New York and hope that the Secretary General of the UN." It must be terrible, when he was killed? "It really is. I talked to him a week before he died. He was an extraordinary man. It looks good. Not a big man, which I tend to like ..." MacLaine falls silent.
But he was not one for wallowing for long. He has little interest in life around it, which may be why he is one of only a handful of older artists are still taking part. His latest film, Bernie, co-stars Jack Black and Matthew Mc William Flew Conaughey. "I play a woman who is a real bitch. It is very rich and everybody hates him. I love the part."
Good ones, I say. Many of the women when they reach a certain age, and they do not take women more difficult. You know how it goes? "No, I do not know how it goes." I'd never get to the point where I feel invisible? "No," he said, loudly and defiantly. I'm not sure if he would growl at me, but then he just laughs. Moods shift with it pretty quickly. One minute she is laughing at you comfortably, the next you feel as if you have something just in your shoes. And then she'll do just kidding face, and we were laughing again.
His book swoops like it, too. From severe anger, political and metaphysical Hollywood insider. And he manages to talk about people with love and hate at the same time and in equal measure, such as Elizabeth William Flew Taylor, as requested diamonds in exchange for a lunch date. You are not sure if he speaks with horror or contempt - or both.
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